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Commons Education Outreach

on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 03:06

Inspired by Mary Beth Steisslinger and Jan Inglis, this forum topic, "Commons Education Outreach" is a place where we can explore new ideas.  It's initial focus will probably be North American, but hopefully the conversation will be relevant for our colleagues from other continents.  We invite everyone's participation.

 

 

 

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Leo Burke's picture

 

I have been thinking a lot about how to move forward locally with commons education, and before i do direct outreach to any university or community college program coordinators, i wanted to check in with our team to see what might be possible.  I am including Jan and Sara as both of them expressed interest in being part of a future conversation regarding commons learning facilitation.
 
So here's some thoughts...
 
I am envisioning ways to both reach the most interested students and collaborate with other instructors to provide the broadest spectrum of expertise and  experience, a developing learning commons in all respects.  Leo and Robin have gone far with the Commons Learning Alliance, and of course anything i do, i would like to support and add to that effort if it makes sense.
 
I see two main modes of commons educational outreach, aside from what may be developed @ the UN (that could be a whole additional discussion):
1. open enrollment community education processes
2. higher education offerings through individual school programs
 
Thus far our collaborative work on the on-line Common Course has been in the first category.  I see this mode could expand to be local,  part on-line, part face-to-face and a way to connect to activist individuals and groups who want to learn more about the commons and how to protect them.  Jan gives a great idea along these lines below in her example of collaborating with CELDF
 
As for the second category, college level courses, i think there are some ways we could make this appealing to sustainability programs in each of our local areas by...
a. offering a traditional in-person survey or intro course on the commons for credit, building on the Common Course and what Leo has done at ND, 
and /or
b. offering a similar for-credit course on-line, perhaps to students from multiple schools, with regular face-to-face gatherings for discussion and student-instructor meetings to discuss written work/ enable understanding/ encourage exploration.  For example, if i had some students here in Pittsburgh from one or two schools who could interact with students from Notre Dame and schools in Philly and Ohio and BC and the Netherlands... that could be amazing.
...And maybe eventually collaborate with instructors from schools in NYC and San Francisco and Mexico City and Singapore and Berlin, Cairo, Darjeeling and Tokyo and London etc?... a sort of decentralized and dynamic commons learning atmosphere, esp. with some face to face time to build a commons community in each locale as we gain instructors.  But i'd like to hear how you envision the CKA growing, Leo?  Both community learning and university participation?
 
These ideas bring up certain questions such as... 
 
-those who have taught on-line for-credit courses might share the details of how that works for them? 
-how big can an on-line course be before it's too unweildy?
-i see lots of good applications for a learning contract here, as a commons approach to grading would be somewhat different?
-Would it be instructors coming together to self-organize various course offerings?
 
Also
Jan recently shared: 
 
 
Well there  are lots of layers and potential avenues I see for education.

I see that the Democracy School works with ordinary citizens who are already motivated to engage due to  a challenging issue they want to improve for their community, but who feel stuck. I appreciated the message that Linzey brings of helping people understand start by learning the history behind  this stuckness and their rights( and I would add responsibilities). I think  a curriculum on commons could offer a deeper layer and framework that would be useful.  It could be done as simply as an overview for 1 day   about some of the historic and structural reasons re how people have lost their voice, and  what might be needed to strengthen it. And if desired  it could be a precursor to the next stage of developing a social charter. I like the idea of this being done all over the country/countries and think that the 1 -3 day  model that ELDF has come up with  is appealing for a certain kind of outcome. I like it that it has been geared to include city officials, concerned citizens, business people etc. it could be a way of finding champions who are committed to going the next step with us. I am so concerned about the lack of critical analysis done by most citizens that  I would like to see a stimulating program become very accessible and soon . The motivations relate to a course i developed awhile ago for 3Ddemocracy and Community Coaches but due to lack of funding and marketing etc,etc has not gone out into the world.


Working through a university within a program on environment, sustainability or community development offers a different outcome and audience which I  think is  very valuable too. I would be interested in bouncing ideas around more about how one can get into this setting. There are sooo many universities who have a program on sustainability, and it would be good if we could create a track record of a useful credible complimentary course or workshop. I am thinking that introducing commons by building off something which already exists may be a good door opener IF, we can get the ear of someone inside  these walls
So, i am eager to move forward here in Pittsburgh, and was wondering what others are thinking.
best,
mbs
Sara Nora Ross's picture

RE MB query: :

These ideas bring up certain questions such as... 
-those who have taught on-line for-credit courses might share the details of how that works for them? 
-how big can an on-line course be before it's too unweildy?
 
I've taught credit-earning graduate courses online for the last 2+ years. Just as with in-person classes, I structure courses w/ usually-weekly writing / anlaysis assignments designed to meet course learning objectives. The software (Sakai, open source university consortium) has programmed-in modalities for submitting and grading assignments, loading lectures (written or audio, I love doing audio), and other course and resource mgmt features, very much like Moodle. (For the audiovisual course delivery, Adobe Connect is actually the mode Antioch is moving toward). Anyway, online courses also have discussion forums like Moodle. Most instructors in my department rely on them much more than I do, in re course participation. We have optional weekly phone calls for students who wish the real-time voice contact and to field questions, pursue deeper discussion, etc. Once students adapt to online, they seem to do well in the virtual contact realm, yet still seem to really need the more "casual" interpersonal exchanges in discussion forums to feel connected, to feel others are "really there," and to feel/hear/see/sense that the instructor is attentive by posting remarks, questions, new points, etc in the forums. Online doesn't change the need for lesson plans, lecture prep (in whatever delivery mode), reviewing/commenting, and grading (even if only a pass/fail basis). Size-wise, for me, once a section/class is over 15, it's too big. For students, reading so many forum postings by too many classmates becomes overwhelmning, time consuming. (Dividing a large group into smaller groups fails with online students in our program, at least, because the asynchronous nature of online learning means people come/go when they want/can - cannot rely on small groups to do work together, like assignments or sharing research tasks.) I've had slightly over 15 only a couple times, not often. I prefer 8 to 12 :).
 
I have other things to post here, will come back later.
Sara
Mary Beth Steisslinger's picture

 Info from the Commoning List(note: can register for list at commoning@lists.wissensallmende.de)I wanted to share this info and get a collaboration going asap with a small initial group of people wanting to offer an on-line university level intro course on the commons, ideally next Fall. The parameters would be set by the collaborating group, and facilitating participants would connect with a college or university to offer this course through an existing environmental or sustainability program.  It can be modeled after the existing Common Course and be a for-credit simple survey or intro course to start (perhaps incorporating some of the additional materials Leo has found useful in his ND common course) with appropriate assignments and regularly scheduled face to face meetings between the instructor/facilitator and the students?  Methods of "Paragogy" and "open-learning" would be explored and we could document the learning experience to improve as we all learn together.lots of links and articles on p2p learning viahttp://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Educationmore can be found at http://delicious.com/mbauwens/P2P-LearningCategory:Education Our Motto: "TOGETHER WE KNOW EVERYTHING"and a warning from Robert Cringely: we've reached the point in our (disparate) cultural adaptation to computing and communication technology that the younger technical generations are so empowered they are impatient and ready to jettison institutions most of the rest of us tend to think of as essential, central, even immortal. They are ready to dump our schools. [1]The three key aspects of Open Education are: 1) Open Content; 2) Open Instruction; 3) Open AssessmentEDUCAUSE defines the range of openness to include:

* Open standards and interoperability
* Open and community source software development
* Open access to research data
* Open scholarly communications
* Open access to, and open derivative use of, content

 If education is to be transformed, these seven aspects need to be tackled concurrently [2]:The Seven C’s of Education.

  • Curricula: How the content is chosen, validated, organized, and presented.
  • Content: The material supporting any learning objective. Ironically, content used to be considered the most important part of an educational model – thus the proliferation of tests. But in the age of Internet, content has gone to being the least important.
  • Coaching: The individual attention helping each student overcome their individual weaknesses, answer specific questions, and leverage their individual strengths, as well as provide motivation.
  • Customization: The ability to identify and meet individual needs.
  • Community: A group of peers that both make learning more effective and engaging.
  • Credit: Proof and documentation that a level of competency has been reached (which also provides motivation).
  • day Care: The ability to house students for a specific time.

 more can be found at http://delicious.com/mbauwens/P2P-Learning

Jan Inglis's picture

I am glad this discussion is up and running, I had checked a few days ago and could not get in.I like your focus MB.  I have a couple of places in BC I could possibly send off something and was told that March is the time so that they can appear in Sept. calendars.

As per usual I think we need to define our  outcomes, assuming different outcomes for different venues and audiences. We now have 3 commons course, our Cancun expereince and Leo's course to build observations from as well as the great info Sara offerred re online learning.

.From your list MB  " But in the age of Internet, content has gone to being the least important. " ...I was wondering what would be considered the most important. Based on the commons course and other such on line  projects I find that commitment is hard to sustain but it seems that getting credit does motivate people .

 I really feel that besides the UN , universities are another place where we can add Commons approaches to over worked "sustainability"  concepts.

Maybe we can get a sens of who is in on this conversation and get a workplan happenning.

 

Mary Beth Steisslinger's picture

Jan and Sara, thanks for your responses... unfortunately, Jan, it was a bit hard to read yours because some programming code language seems to be included?

Anyway, i get the gist of what you are saying.  As for the content thing... i am not sure i entirely agree with the P2P poster on the "content being the least important", but i guess they are essentially saying the sharing of diverse perspectives on the content is most important (ie much more knowledge is held in the community at large).

For me, some defined outcomes i see happening with a collaborative college-level course at least somewhat along the lines of what i suggested would be:

  • developing a local community of interest or at least awareness in the commons approach for local commons support and action (Great Lakes Commons, Marcellus Shale, community empowerment etc)
  • having a means to offer a systems approach to commons education by dint of the various fields of experience of the facilitators
  • connecting people across state and national borders to help facilitate commons awareness and networking
  • being able to offer a course locally even if only a few people sign up, ie it will be a way to start, even if very small at first (as long a local college or university would be willing to offer and accredit it)
  • having the collaboration btwn various institutes of higher ed will be a novel and perhaps intriguing reason for them to try it out (ie particular universities may be willing to pioneer the idea)
  • having done it once, and having it be even mildly successful, it will be easier to do again as we will learn from the experience what works well, what needs improvement, or what to jettison
  • last but not least, it would be great to have a small income from facilitation services, supporting students work and providing guidance (to help with all the commons community education work that has been purely volunteer thus far, both for the on-line ed work, the Gulf Commons work and for the UN advocacy work... all wonderful learning experiences, but i gotta pay my fair share:-)*

*this was another thing i wanted to ask Sara about... i also have a friend who teaches a green building course on-line for Chatham Univ.'s Sustainability Prog. and plan to speak with him about how that is going, platforms used, how much credit for how much time/ how many meetings fees/ pay per student etc

 

 

Jason Bender's picture

What is up with the wacky computer language mixed in with the posts... Leo, can you have your tech guy take a look at this?

sara.nora.ross's picture

MB, re your comment "*this was another thing i wanted to ask Sara about..." I'm not sure if you meant info similar to what you plan to ask your friend about (hours/credits/costs) or not. But bumping it up to the earlier point you make about (what sounds essentially like) a consortium offering the courses and university/college programs "buy into it," I think this is supremely cost effective for online learning. Costs to students would probably be the same dollars per credit hour charged throughout the school, with x# clock-time hours of student engaged in course activities. It'd be different of course for in person courses. And that's what we're talking about creating here in the commons learning alliance, right?

I have been thinking a couple things. One, rudimentary, is that we created workspace in the CAUN moodle for the collaborative thinking about education, with the charge to come up with proposal for approaching commons education. I'm interested to see us use that space so we can attach documents, develop and follow threads of discussion, and use the wiki to put things in writing. Not just for CAUN strategy group but also for Leo and Robin who I understood would be involved in that too. Wonder what you all would think of us copying these posts and popping them over there in CAUN's education topic?

Re educational design, I keep thinking a useful starting point might be to conceive what's needed in the related "branches" - 1) conceptual and 2) practical or "applied" which means 3) develop/supply "tools" such as social charter templates, pre-framed predictable issues for deliberation, and of course templates for trusts' language. I imagine we'd agree they intertwine.

So to have intertwined branches of progressive learning building upon each other, designing the progression that seems real-world sensible for both is very attractive to me. And I believe it implies the importance of practicum work within any curriculum - have to get hands-on experience.

I'd really like us to put our heads together on all this and come up with a sort of blueprint of the path; in other words, if we wanted to equip students to "go all the way" into competent commons work - which requires systemic stuctural change, is "big work" and long term, too - what would we hypothesize they'd have to have, conceptually, practically, and with tools to implement the practical?   (Lots to do!!!!) It'a not just the "business as usual" of traditional activism. And that's possibly one of the attractive "hooks" for commons work, that it "goes somewhere" - at least will, when we have such learning opportunities in place.

Mary Beth Steisslinger's picture

Jan wrote:  ...am glad this discussion is up and running... I like your focus MB. I have a couple of places in BC I could possibly send off something and was told that March is the time so that they can appear in Sept. calendars.

MB writes: Jan, i too have the sense that if something is to be offered in Pittsburgh this coming fall, i have to propose it in March.  Also, Leo and i may be meeting with Duquesne Univ sooner than later about the Commons MBA program, and it would be good to talk about what might be possible in the near-term as far as an introductory-level course then as well (they have an undergrad environ. studies program).

Jay and i spoke today about the idea of getting commons thinking into existing univ curriculum for sustainability or systems programs , even law programs over the next few years.  It seems to me that the way to go would not be to try to transform each university to have a commons course of study immediately (unless we find more Leo Burke's;-), but rather to offer an introductory or seminar course as a seed of change and have many universities participate over a period of time (esp as we get more instructors to collaborate on the CLA site)

To move this along, it would seem we should have a conf call asap with anyone interested in facilitating such a course next fall.  Leo said we could review the curriculum he has used for an undergrad course, and that he would post it on the CLA soon.

 

 

 

Jan Inglis's picture

I wrote i a few days ago but for some reason it did not seem to make it into the forum even though I wrote it here. Hope this response does.

Can't remember what all I said but it was something about voicing my flip side concern re credit courses as they often attract people who are justificably primarily concered re passing and getting out of student debt and less so from a passion re the topic which this pardigm shifting stuff needs. Also it was something about needing to strat small and build credibility which is what you MB I think are saying too. coordinating several universities to coordinate credit courses together is a looooong term process.

I also said something about an important outcome for me being stimulating critical analysis regarding the current political and economic sitituaion society  as I feel untill we get less enmseshed in that we cannot see a need to create something new.

AndI was also missing hearing Leo's voice in here but assume he is stretched thin.

so I am up for more writing here and also for a skype/phone soon. Yikes March starts tomorrow.

.

 

sara.nora.ross's picture

I made a long post a few days ago (too) and have been waiting for it to be released to post, but worry now it's swallowed up somewhere. I will check my other computer, I might have saved it pasted into a Word doc as potential backup, not sure (but hope so). Darn!  One of the things I proposed at the end of it was the idea of moving from this platform over to CAUN moodle just because we have the itme for strategy group to come up with proposed education goals for GCT (and maybe ND and Anthroposphere ) to consider. I'm skittish about the stablity of this blog-style site with losing posts.  

is the problem that this is a moderated site so all posts have to be approved? And maybe if they sit too long waiting for approval, they "die"??? Just trying  to understand what we're dealing with here!!

Sara

Sara Nora Ross's picture

I saved this post as a backup last week in Word, and when I see it got lost here, I'm pasting it in now. Another post, which Ididn't back up, is seemingly gone.

MB, re your comment "*this was another thing i wanted to ask Sara about..." I'm not sure if you meant info similar to what you plan to ask your friend about (hours/credits/costs) or not. But bumping it up to the earlier point you make about (what sounds essentially like) a consortium offering the courses and university/college programs "buy into it," I think this is supremely cost effective for online learning. Costs to students would probably be the same dollars per credit hour charged throughout the school, with x# clock-time hours of student engaged in course activities. It'd be different of course for in person courses. And that's what we're talking about creating here in the commons learning alliance, right?

I have been thinking a couple things. One, rudimentary, is that we created workspace in the CAUN moodle for the collaborative thinking about education, with the charge to come up with proposal for approaching commons education. I'm interested to see us use that space so we can attach documents, develop and follow threads of discussion, and use the wiki to put things in wriiting. Not just for CAUN strategy group but also for Leo and Robin who I understood would be involved in that too. Wonder what you all would think of us copying these posts and popping them over there in CAUN's education topic?

Re educational design, I keep thinking a useful starting point might be to conceive what's needed in the related "branches" - 1) conceptual and 2) practical or "applied" which means 3) develop/supply "tools" such as social charter templates, pre-framed predictable issues for deliberation, and of course templates for trusts' language. I imagine we'd agree they intertwine.

So to have intertwined branches of progressive learning building upon each other, designing the progression that seems real-world sensible for both is very attractive to me. And I believe it implies the importance of practicum work within any curriculum - have to get hands-on experience.

I'd really like us to put our heads together on all this and come up with a sort of blueprint of the path; in other words, if we wanted to equip students to "go all the way" into competent commons work - which requires systemic stuctural change, is "big work" and long term, too - what would we hypothesize they'd have to have, conceptually, practically, and with tools to implement the practical?   (Lots to do!!!!)  It’s not just the "business as usual" of traditional activism. And that's possibly one of the attractive "hooks" for commons work, that it "goes somewhere" - at least will, when we have such learning opportunities in place.

 

Robin Temple's picture

Hallo everyone - very glad to be able to participate in this very interesting discussion and look forward to being on the call today.

In answer to your question, Sara, it seems a good idea to have this forum running on the CAUN site. I'm having technical challenges using it here and am much more comfortable on the Moodle platform.

I'd like to respond to various points that have come up in earlier posts, but just wanted to post this first as a possible contribution to our phone call.

 I’m trying to get clear for myself something about the fundamental context in which we are offering commons education courses.

Without wanting to make it sound too pretentious or ‘woolly’ – this area might be seen as being the ‘philosophy behind the commons education’.

Here's my first idea:

The ultimate goal of commons education is to re-discover that we are all, at heart, and already, commoners and that commoning is our natural inclination and talent – if we are given the right opportunities to do so.

This means we are not so much learning about the commons as something objective to us – a state that needs to be somehow attained.

Rather, we are learning that doing commoning is first a subjective process, that is then expressed, externally, as we relate to others and our environment from this new point of view to create the commons.

If this proposal were part of the starting point for designing commons education then it will have certain implications – on content, but also on context.

Because we’ve all learned, through our social conditioning, over several generations, to forget the essential reality that we are already, in essence, commoners, then we must acknowledge that any true commons education is inherently going to be subversive to our presently constructed presumptions about ‘how the world works’.

This means that if someone fully engages in commons education they will never be the same again.

This may sound dramatic – but it is, perhaps good, to be honest up front about our own intentions in offering commons education. Presumably we are not interested in anything else?

A commons education student will, if they choose to go the full way with commons education, automatically go through transformations that change  how they see themselves, and how they relate to others and the world in general.

This sort of learning is sometimes referred to as ‘triple-loop’ learning.

This has implications on the context in which we are offering commons education – e.g. through colleges and universities.

1)    Does ‘triple-loop’ learning work in such educational establishments or are they more designed to encourage single and, perhaps, some double-loop learning?

2)    We would need to adapt our commons education courses to simply offer ‘single’ and ‘double’ loop learning. But we must be aware this is what we are doing and be careful not to compromise the inherent integrity and intention of our commons education courses in doing so.

And, must always, somehow, be communicating the real intent of commons education, even while being confined to offering education about the commons rather than inviting people into the adventure of seeing themselvs as already commoners and starting from that point of view.

 

George Pór's picture

> I'm having technical challenges using it here and am much more comfortable on the Moodle platform.

Robin, we did have some problem with the move to Drupal 7 that didn't go as smooth as we hoped for but now it's all settled, and everything is working fine.

Isn't the CAUN Moodle space a restricted-access community? If yes, the move risks to create a new enclosure, unless there's a specific reason to continue this conversation in a walled area. It's also an unfortunate timing because we are about to launch the Commons Cultivation Group, a London-based social enterprise focused on commons education in face-to-face settings, including university-sponsored workshops, and we hoped to exchange ideas with the commoners of this conversation threads. 

In the spirit of commoning what do you suggest?

george

 
Sara Nora Ross's picture

per our agreement, the foregoing posts are copied into the education space on CAUN moodle site.

March 6 2011/SNR

George Pór's picture

dear Sara,

> education space on CAUN moodle site.

who can have access to it?

warmly,

george